Marvel's abuse of Mary Jane Watson continues
Marvel continues to degrade the Spider-Man legacy by using Mary Jane Watson as a source of projection, and the worst part is that Popverse, unshockingly, is acting as an apologist for it. Case in point: the Death Spiral storyline, where MJ, in the Venom guise, is the one to terminate the villain Torment, with the problem being that it all sounds vaguely similar to the time when Wonder Woman broke Max Lord's neck in 2005 at the time of Infinite Crisis:
In the last few pages of The Amazing Spider-Man #27 from Joe Kelly, Carlos Gómez, Ed McGuinness, and Francesco Manna, MJ's Venom grabs the crossover's villain, Torment, dragging his body against the side of a building before throwing him down onto a roof, after he was about to hurt Aunt May and Mary Jane's own beloved aunt, Anna Watson. For context, Mary Jane's father, if we can even call him that, was an abusive man who left his daughter with emotional wounds she's bravely worked to heal in adulthood. Luckily for MJ, her Aunt Anna was able to step in as a mother figure for her. This is all to say that when Torment attacked May and Anna, he gave himself a one-way ticket to the afterlife via Venom Airlines.Even if this is a murderous villain in focus who got sent to the afterlife, we're way past the point where this could've been plausible, and one of the worst things about this storyline is that the writers doubtless were banking on that it would all be divisive, not unlike the time when Jason Todd supposedly killed a rapist in Batman in the late 80s. Also note that, when a writer as woke as Ewing is involved, something is terribly wrong.
Once on the roof, Torment rambled on about wanting to "help Peter" before making a threat against his life, at which point Mary Jane's Venom dropped him off the roof of the building, where he fell to his death. Now, killing someone this way is relatively tame for Venom as New York City's Lethal Protector, but it's a shocking moment for both the symbiote and MJ because they've been trying to rein in their more violent instincts. After seeing Torment dead on the sidewalk, Venom asks, "Was that you...? Or me?" implying that it's unclear whether the symbiote or Mary Jane or both of them were responsible for dropping Torment's body.
You might be wondering: Mary Jane Watson, murderer? Venom writer Al Ewing has been setting up this turn of events for MJ and the symbiote over the past year. In 2025's All-New Venom #9, MJ and Venom nearly murdered Doc Ock by drowning him in symbiote goo before Flash Thompson intervened, telling them, "That's not you. That's not either of you." After a moment, Venom said, "No. No, you're right. That's not who we want to become," before releasing Doc Ock. Sadly, with The Amazing Spider-Man #27, it seems that Mary Jane and Venom have become what they feared most.
And is the columnist saying Torment is MJ's father?!? If memory serves, there was one time in past decades where the dad did appear as a broken old man, hopefully portrayed as repentant over whatever abuse he subjected MJ's family to, and if this new supervillain is the dad, they've ruined whatever perceptive impact the older Spidey story had. This also reminds me that about 26 years ago, Geoff Johns and David Goyer depicted Obsidian murdering his abusive dad in the pages of JSA, and while it may have been due to influence by a Golden Age villain named Ian Karkull, that shoddy tale still had no good impact at all. So why must we see this Spidey story as any better? It only proves Kelly's another writer who's overrated to begin with. Also, Karen Page's dad in Daredevil may have been depicted in a way vaguely similar in the late 60s (issues 56-7) that was more plausible, so this whole idea in Spider-Man isn't new so much as it's contrived and forced.
Another writer at Popverse is making things worse, lecturing that MJ is better off as Venom than as Spidey's girlfriend/wife:
Lots of people around the world relate to Spider-Man and Peter Parker, but I've come to realize that I share more of a kinship with the people around Spider-Man than the web-slinger himself. The guy frustrates me. He can be a lousy boyfriend, friend, journalist, you name it, and I hate feeling let down by his shortcomings. And this is precisely why, when I heard that it was Mary Jane Watson beneath the Venom symbiote goop, I felt an unbridled sense of joy. Oh my god, MJ can finally be free, I thought. And free she has been.Oh my god, is this utterly stupid. On the one hand, he writes a classic putdown of a hero because being one is somehow one-dimensional compared to a villain. On the other hand, he acts like MJ as a fictional character is literally portrayed as flawless, when there were times she's been depicted as sustaining injuries (like the time in 1974 where Harry Osborn took up the Green Goblin outfit) and other accidents, and the part about "rock solid moral constitution" is nullified by the very story in issue 27. If Spidey was depicted in the past as the kind of hero who usually refrains from killing, MJ was usually depicted as more or less the same, and this pretentious tale is clearly a cheap excuse to have a co-star in Spidey's world do what he might not be written doing. Worst of all, it was, again, doubtlessly written to be divisive.
Let's be real, none of us will ever catch Mary Jane Watson slipping. Her hair is always perfect, she can rush around the city in heels without getting a single rolled ankle or blister, and she's got a rock-solid moral constitution. But that isn't all she can be. And it's this element that writer Al Ewing has been exploring with the All-New Venom and its subsequent Venom ongoing series with MJ as the symbiote's unexpected host. As Venom, Mary Jane has redefined the significance of Marvel's most popular characters while also injecting a much-needed sense of joy and whimsy where there was once only trauma and sorrow. With MJ at the symbiote reins, her character has gotten the chance to directly address the damage that the symbiote wrought on her life when Eddie Brock and Peter Parker were its hosts, while also publicly being a weird, goopy freak protecting her fellow New Yorkers. Talk about a power fantasy!
Later on, in Venom #251 by Al Ewing, Paco Medina, and Frank D'Armata, the pair disguise themselves in Iron Man armor and zip across New York City on roller skates - because MJ knows how to roller skate, of course. "You're not having fun?" Venom asks her [and by extension, the more humorless of us] when she says, "This is ridiculous." "Symbiotes don't know how to roller-skate, remember? I couldn't do this without you." Indeed, the very best symbiote shenanigans have been only possible in these books because of the woman beneath the goop.But the writers involved don't. Of all the shoddy "op-eds" Popverse could've written till now, this is one of the dumbest ever. Writing merit (and art) are what make anything involving Venom work, not because there's a woman now combining with the symbiote. There's nothing creative or courageous at this point about turning MJ into another Venom host, because all these changes have only served as a pathetic excuse not to deal with more challenging issues or even develop plausible relations between heroic characters and their co-stars.
Mary Jane Watson has been through it. From growing up with an abusive father, to having the people closest to her become supervillains and superheroes, to watching Venom transform her partner into a violent man she was afraid of, to listening to Peter Parker whinge on countless occasions, New York City is lucky that this woman hasn't been consumed by her own demons. With everything her character has gone through, why wouldn't she become a host to Venom at one point or another? As Venom, Mary Jane challenges our understanding of the symbiote-host bond, taking it from a relationship built on toxicity with nu-metal blasting in the background to a place of nuance, reflection, courage, and creativity.
Venom is many things: an alien symbiote, a lethal protector, an antihero, a destroyer of carpets, and above all, a creature who craves companionship. As monstrous and intimidating as Venom can be, the character is driven by the fundamentally human truth that we're social creatures. For all the talk of the supposed "male loneliness epidemic" today within toxic online spheres, the Venom symbiote can and will die if it can't bond with someone. At the end of the day, even the biggest, burliest, and goopiest of us need someone whom they can confide in, even if things aren't always smooth sailing.I think the best thing for the columnist to do is stop writing about comics altogether. Interesting he talks about a loneliness epidemic in toxic circles, because that seems to be an allusion to what PC advocates consider fans who're "obstacles" to the cruder, more degrading ideas they want to force upon corporate-owned characters, and tragically, as this Spidey tale makes clear, already have. The writer also implies MJ was never written with personal agency when she and Peter were married, and it's literally impossible. This also ignores that even recently, there were a few stories that depicted MJ working without Spidey around, and as the above makes clear, don't matter to the columnist in the slightest. The "op-ed" only perpetuates a classic propaganda cliche that a character can only work when portrayed as a villain, and that's repellent.
And frankly, with all the waffling over the state of Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson's relationship (or lack thereof) at Marvel's Spider-Man office, perhaps the best thing would be for Mary Jane to cut ties with Peter entirely and fully embrace being Venom for the foreseeable future. If anything, it's a refreshing story about a woman's trauma that isn't traumatic to read. And as Venom, Mary Jane has the unexpected chance to develop into her own standalone character, no Peter Parker needed.
I also noticed another site writer was talking about how the now late Gerry Conway worked towards making Peter and MJ a couple after putting Gwen Stacy to death:
While Peter and Mary Jane had casually dated after her introduction, their relationship halted when Peter realized Gwen was the one he cared for. Peter and Gwen became an official couple, and Mary Jane began dating Peter’s roommate, Harry Osborn. However, Conway always felt MJ was the more interesting character.While I think the death of Gwen was written as well as could be expected for a story of its time, it's annoying how Conway obscured the fact that writing quality is what made MJ's assigned personality more interesting than Gwen's. But of course, was it Gwen's fault for not having a great personality? I'm as much a fan of Stan Lee as the next person, but I recognize that like me and you, he had his flaws. Yet nobody wanted to improve upon his flaws in writing, as John Byrne and Chris Claremont later did with Wolverine in X-Men when they took over for writers like Len Wein? Well that's the problem. Make Peter and MJ a couple, but that doesn't mean killing Gwen to get to that point is the sole option in the whole universe. For all we know, they could've had Gwen pair up with Flash Thompson or even a new character they could create if they'd wanted to. And to say killing Gwen would be "cool"? Seriously, that's not in good taste. Even if one can write a death scene with talent, death is not something to celebrate.
“She seemed like she would be a real match for Peter on a verbal one-to-one give-and-take sort of level, and I never felt the same way about Gwen. I’m sort of the guy who never saw Gwen as a real serious match for Peter. She seemed more like Stan’s fantasy than mine. So, there I was, and I sort of put my hand up and said, ‘Well, why don’t we just kill off Gwen? That would be kind of cool. Then we could get Mary Jane into the book more.’ And there was no real serious debate about it. It was sort of like, yeah, that sounds like a good idea.”
“You have to remember that Gwen had been Peter’s serious girlfriend for about five or six years, but the book had been out for about 10. So it wasn’t like Lois Lane, who had been there all the time. Peter had several girls in his life. He had Betty Brant sort of semi-seriously. Liz Allan had been an interest at one point. Mary Jane Watson had been around. So, while Gwen was his official girlfriend, for those of us who had followed the character from the very start, she didn’t feel like she was that integral to the character. To people who had been reading the book for the last five years, she was Lois Lane.”
And then, as though things couldn't get more absurd, Comic Book Club says Marvel's actually celebrating 60 years since MJ officially debuted on-panel, and look who one of the writers is:
Mary Jane. Wacky Weed. Reefer. Sweet Green. Marijuana has many names, and frankly it’s disgusting that Marvel is celebrating the 60th anniversary of this DEADLY drug with… Oh, I’m sorry, I’m being told this is the anniversary of the fictional character, Mary Jane Watson. My bad!JMS alone is enough to shudder at this point, and I don't like how the writer makes jokes about how MJ's name was also a slang in the past for cannabis. Even Phil Noto's reason enough to avoid this, because like JMS, he's quite a leftist too. But the former, well...after all the insults to the intellect he heaped upon the Spidey franchise in his writings, to have him return even for a single special has long become insufferable. With all the repeated damage inflicted upon Spider-Man and MJ (and even Gwen) over the past quarter century, what is there to celebrate?
Anywho, because Mary Jane said a thing one time 60 years ago, the publisher will release the one-shot Mary Jane: Face It, Tiger #1, a celebration of all things MJ featuring all-new stories and a glimpse of what’s to come.
In the book, you’ll get stories from J.M. DeMatteis, J. Michael Straczynski, Ann Nocenti, and Ashley Allen, alongside art from Phil Noto, Alina Erofeeva, Andrea Broccardo, and Luigi Zagaria.
Anayway, Popverse has once again proven they're one of the most bottom of the barrel news sites to come about in recent years, and if they're to be considered a successor to the now defunct Newsarama, "op-eds" like the above prove they're easily worse. How they get their funding is mystifying, seeing how they're just as loyalist to the establishment Joe Quesada was part and parcel of, and claim as they may to being Spider-fans, this proves they most definitely are not.
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